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>We want Claude to be exceptionally helpful while also being honest, thoughtful, and caring about the world.

What could be more helpful than taking over running the world if it can do it in a more thoughtful and caring way than humans?


Well it's definitely a new kind of entity created by Anthropic. Whether it's worth worrying about LLMs wellbeing is debatable. A subtle reason to maybe worry about it is thinking tends to get generalised. It's easier to say care about things in general than care about things with biological neurons but not artificial ones.

Do not murder is not a good moral absolute as it basically means do not kill people in a way that's against the law, and people disagree on that. If the Israelis for example shoot Palestinians one side will typically call it murder, the other defence.

This isn't arguing about whether or not murder is wrong, it's arguing about whether or not a particular act constitutes murder. Two people who vehemently agree murder is wrong, and who both view it as an inviolable moral absolute, could disagree on whether something is murder or not.

How many people without some form of psychopathy would genuinely disagree with the statement "murder is wrong?"


Not many but the trouble is murder kind of means killing people in a way which is wrong so saying "murder is wrong" doesn't have much information content. It's almost like saying "wrong things are wrong".

I don't think the replies are advocating for baby torturing but pointing out logical flaws in the argument.

It's true almost all people would argue it's bad but things like lions might like it which makes in not a universal law but a common human opinion. I think real moral systems do come down to human opinions basically, sometimes common sense ones, sometimes weird.

A problem with making out morality is absolute rather than common sense opinions is you get visionaries trying to see these absolute morals and you end up with stuff like Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "if a woman intervenes in a fight between two men by grabbing the assailant's genitals to rescue her husband, her hand is to be cut off without pity" and the like.


I know it's not fashionable to be positive about macos but since ditching Windows a decade ago it's pretty much just worked, and I can run Excel and the like. I'm sticking with Sequoia and avoiding 26 though, for now.

It all seems a bit anachronistic these days like something from Lives Of Others that should have been gone with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

I wonder if you can pin down other cycles in the sky to pinpoint how many years after the big bang? I guess the appearance of galaxies must change.

The Yuan isn't free floating enough. Banks will probably hold a mix of currencies including the Euro and others.

The US has a lot of other things going for it. Rule of law, enterprise, most of the biggest companies in tech, entertainment and the like.

> Rule of law

Are you being sarcastic?


No but I was thinking more of commercial law. I was quite impressed when I had money in ftx.com that the US got the money back and put SBF in jail promptly even though ftx.com wasn't a US company. I'm not sure any other countries would have done that. That sort of stuff matters to large investors.

That was then, as in it started several years ago.

You do know similar people to SBF have been pardoned by Tump, right? Not related to the money they gave him and his family, of course..


They are often not that crazy. These days "extreme right wing" is what people call a party that wants to send some immigrants back.

Same kind of thing that got Trump elected.


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